Legislature(2013 - 2014)BUTROVICH 205

02/11/2014 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
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-- Public Testimony --
          SB 104-APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE DIVIDEND FUND                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:08:39 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON  announced that  SB 104 is  before the  committee. He                                                               
noted  that SB  104 was  introduced  the previous  week and  some                                                               
discussion occurred. He  revealed that Mr. Banks  has worked with                                                               
two  or  three different  state  executive  branch personnel  and                                                               
excellent  suggestions  were  received.  He set  forth  that  the                                                               
intent  is  to incorporate  the  suggestions  into the  bill.  He                                                               
stated that the purpose at today's meeting is to discuss the                                                                    
changes with the intent to act on SB 104 at the following                                                                       
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:09:36 AM                                                                                                                    
JOSHUA BANKS, Staff, Senator Dyson, Alaska State Legislature,                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska, explained that SB 104's four major goals are as                                                                 
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
   1. Restore crime victims to pre-offense condition.                                                                           
   2. Establish a reliable funding source for the Violent                                                                       
     Crimes Compensation Board (VCCB).                                                                                          
   3. Sets a priority for the use of the Criminal Fund (CF).                                                                    
   4. Uses a "vehicle" for compensation that already exists                                                                     
     in statute.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS explained the sectional analysis for SB 104 as                                                                        
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1, subparagraph (A) makes  the language for the                                                                    
     legislative intent  for taking away a  felon or certain                                                                    
     misdemeanants'  Permanent Fund  Dividend (PFD)  uniform                                                                    
     with our priority order set in SB 104.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1, subparagraph  (B) would  ensure that  money                                                                    
     from ineligible  individuals' PFDs goes into  CF before                                                                    
     it is  spent. The purpose  of this language  change was                                                                    
     to  make sure  that there  wasn't an  end-run to  avoid                                                                    
     giving money to victims.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2, subsection (a), this  section in total gives                                                                    
     direction on how  to spend the CF; it is  a new section                                                                    
     that would  create AS 43.23.  Subsection (a)  creates a                                                                    
     priority order for how the CF should be appropriated.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:11:42 AM                                                                                                                    
He continued to address the sectional analysis as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The priority order that we are setting is:                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          1. The Violent Crimes Compensation Board to make                                                                      
             payments for victims.                                                                                              
         2. The Child Support Services Division to pay                                                                          
             child support arrearages owed by incarcerated                                                                      
             individuals.                                                                                                       
          3. State approved court-ordered drug or alcohol                                                                       
             rehabilitation costs.                                                                                              
          4. The Department of Corrections for other                                                                            
             incarceration costs.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection  (b), the  VCCB will  give a  report to  the                                                                    
     Department  of  Revenue  (DOR) showing  the  amount  of                                                                    
     compensable  claims  that  could  have  been  given  to                                                                    
     victims and the  amount that would have  been needed to                                                                    
     pay  the  first amount.  The  reason  why we  have  two                                                                    
     amounts in this  section is if they  didn't have enough                                                                    
     money in  the previous year,  they can request  what is                                                                    
     needed. Also,  in the case  in the future, if  they end                                                                    
     up not granting the money  that was appropriated in the                                                                    
     previous  year, they  will just  need to  ask for  what                                                                    
     they need.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection  (c), the  Child  Support Services  Division                                                                    
     (CSSD)  will   send  the   amounts  of   child  support                                                                    
     arrearages  owed  by  incarcerated individuals  to  the                                                                    
     DOR.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection  (d) will  have the  court system  report on                                                                    
     how  much  they  need  to   operate  drug  and  alcohol                                                                    
     rehabilitation programs.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection (e) will have DOR  look at the reports given                                                                    
     in sections (b),  (c), and (d), and  determine how much                                                                    
     each agency  should receive  from the  CF based  on the                                                                    
     priority set in subsection (a).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:13:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL  noted Section 2 and  asked if the CF  was placed                                                               
at the top of the list and the rest of the list stayed the same.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANKS replied  that  the  current statute  does  not have  a                                                               
priority order.  He added  that the priority  list is  based upon                                                               
the Governor and legislature as to who should receive funds.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON informed  the committee that SB  104's primary intent                                                               
is  to  specify  victims  as  the first  priority.  He  noted  in                                                               
previous  legislation it  was assumed  that  victims were  listed                                                               
first.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  asked  to clarify  that  penalties  for  court-                                                               
ordered drug and  alcohol treatment will be  tallied and assessed                                                               
rather than the actual cost for treatment.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS  replied that  the court system  does not  have records                                                               
for  treatment program  costs. He  said  the intent  to have  the                                                               
Department of Corrections (DOC) report treatment program costs.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:15:20 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON explained  that there are two groups who  kind of get                                                               
money  for  victims to  propitiate  them:  DOL for  court-ordered                                                               
adjudication and VCCB.  He specified that DOL  cannot begin their                                                               
work until final adjudication and  the process can take months or                                                               
years. He said  VCCB can begin immediate  recompense for victims.                                                               
He  asserted  that SB  104  does  not  touch DOL's  court  system                                                               
orders.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS continued the sectional analysis as follows:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Subsection  (f)  will  have DOR  submit  a  legislative                                                                    
     report  listing  the amounts  that  should  go to  each                                                                    
     agency; this  is going  to be  done when  the operating                                                                    
     budget is submitted to the legislature.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3 establishes  the  CF  in statute.  Currently                                                                    
     there is  no statutory reference  to the PFD-CF;  it is                                                                    
     really only  in existence  for accounting  purposes. We                                                                    
     felt  that  it  was  needed   so  that  all  PFDs  from                                                                    
     ineligible individuals  can statutorily be  tracked and                                                                    
     specify  that  it  is  going  into  the  CF.  The  last                                                                    
     sentence in  Section 3, page  4, line 28, you  will see                                                                    
     that nothing  in this section creates  a dedicated fund                                                                    
     and the purpose of that  is to avoid misconstruing that                                                                    
     this fund is creating a  dedicated fund. In Article IX,                                                                    
     Section 7 of the  Alaska Constitution; it prohibits the                                                                    
     dedication of  funds to a specific  purpose. The Alaska                                                                    
     Supreme Court did a good  precedent case on Sonneman v.                                                                    
     Hickel,  which dealt  with  the  Alaska Marine  Highway                                                                    
     System Fund. The court said  that even though the money                                                                    
     automatically  goes   into  the  Marine   Highway  Fund                                                                    
     through  revenue  received  from  the  Marine  Highway,                                                                    
     because the legislature  is not forced by  law to spend                                                                    
     that money in  the fund on the Marine  Highway, it does                                                                    
     not violate  the dedicated funds  clause. So  we worked                                                                    
     with Legislative Legal  to make the language  in the CF                                                                    
     very similar to the Marine  Highway Fund so that we can                                                                    
     avoid the dedicated funds clause.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL asked  to clarify that anything in the  CF can be                                                               
appropriated by the legislature for any purpose.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:18:41 AM                                                                                                                    
He continued the sectional analysis on Section 4 as follows:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     In paragraph 6 we  are giving DOR additional regulatory                                                                    
     authority to  implement AS 43.23.031, which  is Section                                                                    
     2 of our bill. Page 6,  subsection 11 will allow DOR to                                                                    
     use the list ineligible  individuals provided by DOC to                                                                    
     determine how  much child  support arrearages  are owed                                                                    
     by these individuals.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON noted  that original intent was to  have victims paid                                                               
50  percent  from  the  CF   and  50  percent  from  the  Victims                                                               
Compensation Fund.  He explained  that SB 104  allows VCCB  to do                                                               
what is  appropriate for the  victim and the perpetrator  will be                                                               
on  the hook  to repay  what the  perpetrator is  able to  do. He                                                               
remarked that  it was his  own experience with  criminal activity                                                               
that as part of the  criminal's rehabilitation and or restoration                                                               
that many individuals do what they can for restoring the victim.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:41 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. BANKS summarized the sectional analysis as follows:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5 will set an effective date for July 1, 2014.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if an  inmate has to  apply for a  PFD and                                                               
can an inmate be forced to apply for a PFD.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS  replied no. He  specified that inmates  are ineligible                                                               
to  receive a  PFD. He  said  the state  has a  quasi-garnishment                                                               
process where an inmate's PFD is taken away and put into the CF.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked to  clarify that an  inmate is  an Alaskan                                                               
resident and  the PFD  is a  transactional question  whether they                                                               
apply  or not  with the  state getting  the PFD  for correctional                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON added that fund  distribution will be dictated by the                                                               
set priorities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:22:08 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if inmates  housed outside  of Alaska                                                               
were still considered Alaska residents.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS responded that he did not know.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:23:11 AM                                                                                                                    
DAN  DEBARTOLO,   Director,  Permanent  Fund   Dividend  Division                                                               
(PFDD), Alaska  Department of Revenue, Juneau,  Alaska, responded                                                               
that PFDD  receives information  from DOC  and the  Department of                                                               
Public  Safety   (DPS)  strictly  for  instate   individuals.  He                                                               
explained that PFDD is not  making the assumption for individuals                                                               
who are out  of state. He asserted that out  of state individuals                                                               
would not be counted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  asked to  clarify  that  an inmate  housed                                                               
outside of  the state does  not meet  any of the  requirements or                                                               
exceptions to receive a PFD.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DEBARTOLO  clarified that  PFDD  never  puts an  application                                                               
through  on   behalf  of  inmates.   PFDD  receives  a   list  of                                                               
individuals that meet the criteria  in the statute whether or not                                                               
they are a felon or  misdemeanant, whether they were sentenced or                                                               
incarcerated.  He said  since  PFDD does  not  receive an  actual                                                               
application,  the assumption  is made  that the  individual would                                                               
have applied  for a  PFD had  the individual not  been in  one of                                                               
those  particular situations.  He  explained that  PFDD does  not                                                               
know where sentenced inmates are incarcerated.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON asserted  that  bringing the  prisoners  home has  a                                                               
collateral benefit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:25:50 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON announced  that SB 104 will be held  in committee and                                                               
asked Mr. Banks to review the CS for SB 104.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS said the CS for SB 104 changes the following:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The first  change that we  are looking at making  is in                                                                    
     Section 1, page  2, line 20: after  "victims," we would                                                                    
     like to add "and operating  costs of the Violent Crimes                                                                    
     Compensation Board;"  the purpose  of this is  to allow                                                                    
     VCCB to continue  using the CF to  fund their operating                                                                    
     costs. Currently  the money that  they get from  the CF                                                                    
     goes  towards compensation  of victims  as well  as the                                                                    
     operating costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked  if the change just puts in  statute that which                                                               
is already the practice.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS answered yes.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:27:28 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. BANKS continued to address the CS for SB 104 as follows:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     On  page 3,  line  14:  we are  doing  the same  thing,                                                                    
     adding operating costs to the VCCB.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     At the end of  page 3 and the first line  of page 4: we                                                                    
     are deleting  Subsection 1 and putting  in the language                                                                    
     "to  the  Crime  Victim Compensation  Fund  established                                                                    
     under AS  18.67.162 for payments  to crime  victims and                                                                    
     operating  costs  of  the Violent  Crimes  Compensation                                                                    
     Board."  This will  just mirror  the  language that  is                                                                    
     currently used to allow the  VCCB to receive money from                                                                    
     the CF.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     On page  4, line  2: after  "arrearages," we  would add                                                                    
     the words "owed by  incarcerated individuals with minor                                                                    
     children;" the purpose  of this is to put  a time limit                                                                    
     on how  much money  from the  CF will  go to  pay child                                                                    
     support arrearages.  You will have offenders  that have                                                                    
     life sentences  and when they  start they have  a three                                                                    
     year  old child,  but 15  years  later they  are not  a                                                                    
     minor  child  anymore  and  so not  in  need  of  child                                                                    
     support at that point.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     On page  4, line  3: we  will be  deleting "to  a state                                                                    
     approved rehabilitation  program," and  substitute that                                                                    
     for "to the Department of Corrections."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked what the previously noted change accomplishes.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANKS answered that the court system does not track drug                                                                    
rehabilitation costs and DOC will report drug rehabilitation                                                                    
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:29:38 AM                                                                                                                    
He continued the address the CS as follows:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 9: add  "and operating cost of the Violent                                                                    
     Crimes Compensation Board" at the end of line 9.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4,  line 12: after "individuals,"  add "with minor                                                                    
     children;" again, to put in that time limit.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked if the previous change is a change in policy.                                                                 
He specified that placing "with minor children" does not change                                                                 
what the policy is, just puts it in statute.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANKS answered  correct. He  explained  that minor  children                                                               
currently receive child  support and do not  receive support when                                                               
they are no longer a minor.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He continued to address the CS as follows:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4,  line 13:  we are  deleting "court  system" and                                                                    
     replacing that with "Department of Corrections."                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON set forth the following to the committee:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     I want it clearly on  the record that my intention that                                                                    
     the  funds that  will  be available  for crime  victims                                                                    
     will go  back and  catch up on  arrearages and  what is                                                                    
     due  to them.  It's not  just this  year's victims  and                                                                    
     this  year's court  ordered restitution,  it  is to  go                                                                    
     back and catch up on what  they were ruled to get. If I                                                                    
     didn't say  it before, DOC  realizes they are  going to                                                                    
     take a decrement in their  budget from these funds, but                                                                    
     indeed with the PFD going  up and the prison population                                                                    
     significantly increasing; there may  not be a huge hit.                                                                    
     The other thing is, under  the Affordable Care Act, DOC                                                                    
     can now  get reimbursement from Medicaid;  so that will                                                                    
     be  additional  funds  that will  backfill  from  these                                                                    
     funds that won't be going to prisoner healthcare.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:32:57 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR COGHILL asked to clarify  that the change allows the flow                                                               
of  money  into a  fund  that  will go  into  a  program to  help                                                               
victims.  He noted  that the  Department  of Law  (DOL) is  still                                                               
proceeding with court ordered claims  that are owed and asked how                                                               
DOL's claims collections works with  the victim's funds. He asked                                                               
to clarify  that DOL is  going to  go after restitution  and that                                                               
money flows in a different way.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANKS relied  that DOL's  statutes will  not be  changed. He                                                               
specified   that  DOL   will  continue   to  seek   court-ordered                                                               
restitution. He specified  that SB 104 will allow money  to go to                                                               
VCCB, a  fund that  is different  than restitution.  He explained                                                               
that  VCCB can  give a  "grant"  to a  victim before  there is  a                                                               
conviction.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL remarked that he  did not want the legislature to                                                               
relax on  restitution. He asserted that  the victim's restitution                                                               
avenue be  held firm.  He said  the DOL  budget must  include the                                                               
necessary tools for restitution.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:34:31 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   DYSON  added   that  DOL's   Collection  Department   has                                                               
accelerated and  intensified their  efforts. He noted  that DOL's                                                               
Collection Department  is getting two  or three times  the amount                                                               
of restitution  versus two years  ago. He noted  his appreciation                                                               
that   the  Governor   and  the   Administration  have   shown  a                                                               
significant  amount  of  enthusiasm for  getting  after  victims'                                                               
restitution. He remarked that the  affected departments have been                                                               
supportive.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON announced that the intent  is to move the bill at the                                                               
next committee meeting,  [SB 104 is held in  committee]. He asked                                                               
if anyone in the room or online would like to testify.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:36:00 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DYSON closed public testimony.                                                                                            

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